A new kind of education is emerging…
We are stuck in an old paradigm, with institutional structures that control and define our lived experience, built for a world that no longer exists.
Within education, passionate entrepreneurs and committed citizens are no longer waiting for these broken formal institutions to be reformed. All over the world, they are designing and building their own local responses with relationships at their core. These are the education ecosystems that our young people need and out of which new institutions will emerge.
The Future Learning Design podcast is an inquiry into these fundamental changes and an invitation to you to join the movement to help drive positive change.

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Over 200 episodes with thought-leaders, entrepreneurs, educators.
Hosted by Tim Logan, Partner at Good Impact Labs.
Your Brain is not a Computer! - Ecological Dynamics in Education - A Conversation with Prof. Keith Davids
Professor Keith Davids is Professor of Motor Learning at the Centre for Sport and Exercise Science. Keith uses an Ecological Dynamics framework for investigating skill acquisition, expertise and talent development in sport. He is an applied scientist who researches how processes of learning, development, performance preparation and participation in sport, physical activity and exercise may be facilitated. He reviews implications for coaching and teaching at elite, sub-elite and recreational levels of participants, as part of his work. Ecological Dynamics is an integration of Ecological Psychology, Dynamical Systems theory, Evolutionary Science and the Science of Complex Systems, considering individual athletes and teams as complex adaptive systems, self-organising under interacting constraints. Such systems change over different timescales, which has significant implications for learning, development and ageing in children, adults and elderly people. He has over 30 years experience of teaching and conducting research in Ecological Dynamics with collaborators in UK, Portugal, France, Australia, Germany, New Zealand, Finland, Norway and Sweden in related fields like Sports Science, Psychology, Behavioural Neuroscience, Sports Coaching, Physical Education and Human Movement Science. He has held/holds research positions in the UK (Manchester Metropolitan University: 1991-2003), Finland (University of Jyvaskyla, Finnish Distinguished Professor: 2012-2016), New Zealand (University of Otago: 2003-2007), Australia (Queensland University of Technology: 2006-2014) and Norway (2020-22: Norwegian Sports Science University (NTNU, Trondheim), Adjunct Research Professor). His scientific research is applied in the work of international sports organisations (national and international teams in Association Football, NFL, Rugby Union and AFL) and national Institutes of Sport in Australia (AIS), New Zealand (NZSI), and England (EIS), as well as KIHU (Finnish Olympic Research Committee) and PESTA (Physical Education and Sports Teachers Association, Singapore).
Wisdom and Storytelling - A Conversation with Deepak Ramola
Deepak Ramola is the Founder and Artistic Director of Project FUEL. A two time TED Talk speaker & UN Action Plan Executor, he also previously served as the Kindness Ambassador for UNESCO Mahatma Gandhi Institute of Education for Peace and Sustainable Development.
Warm Data in Education - A Conversation with Nora Bateson
This week's episode is a wonderful conversation with Nora Bateson (https://batesoninstitute.org/nora-bateson/). In my opinion, Nora is one of the most important thinkers working today to challenge the dominant paradigm of optimization, separation and machine-like efficiency that pervades our institutions. She does so in her own beautiful style and in deep continuity with the ideas of her father, Gregory Bateson, and her grandfather, William Bateson, among many others.
Education as a Force to Unite - A Conversation with Faith Abiodun
Faith Abiodun is Executive Director at UWC International bringing a wealth of experience from his time spent as an education and social enterprise leader, international affairs analyst, writer and speaker.
Regenerating Economics Education - A Conversation with Jennifer Brandsberg-Engelmann
Jennifer Brandsberg-Engelmann has been teaching Economics, Business Management and Environmental Systems and Societies for 26 years in three countries, mainly in the International Baccalaureate. Jennifer is an expert in developing and executing educational strategies, projects, processes and curricula. Her core focus is training young people to take action for sustainable and regenerative societies. She has worked with student changemakers in the Sustainability Action Lab at Strothoff International School, Germany, developing their knowledge, skills and passions through the Youth Mayors Field Guide, a curriculum that she lead - developed with colleagues from other disciplines and other international schools.
Schools as Drivers of Innovation - A Conversation with Anna Pons & Leila Loupis
The Schools Plus Network was launched in May by the OECD Directorate for Education and Skills, led by Andreas Schleicher (previous guest on the podcast, Ep #38). The network is intended to position schools as the drivers of innovation and gather and connect the best innovative practices from schools around the world to share them with others.
Slow Pedagogies in the Early Years - A Conversation with Prof. Alison Clark
Alison Clark is an Professor of Early Childhood Education and visual artist. She is an Honorary Senior Research Fellow at Thomas Coram Research Unit, UCL Institute of Education, London, UK. Her main academic work is currently in Norway where she is Professor of Early Childhood Education at the University of South-Eastern Norway (USN).
Contextual Well-being in Education - A Conversation with Dr. Helen Street
Dr Helen Street is a social psychologist and educator and has worked extensively with schools around the world since 1999. She holds a position as Honorary Research Fellow at the University of Western Australia, Graduate School of Education as well as adjunct research consultant for the health department of Western Australia’s Centre for Clinical Interventions.
Learning Design and AI - A Conversation with Dr Philippa Hardman
Dr Philippa Hardman is a learning scientist and affiliated scholar at the University of Cambridge. She is the creator of the DOMS™️ learning design engine - a groundbreaking evidence-based learning design process. She is a thought leader in the world of learning design and has spent 20+ years researching learning science & designing in-person, online & hybrid learning experiences. Phil has designed some of the world's most high-impact learning experiences, including the University of Oxford's first and most successful MOOC. She also successfully led the largest learning design project in history while VP of Learning at ed-tech start-up, Aula. More recently, Phil has started to consider the role of AI in learning design and delivery and recently delivered a TEDX Talk on AI and Education.
Slow Education - A Conversation with Carl Honoré
Carl Honoré is a bestselling author, broadcaster and the voice of the Slow Movement. His two main-stage TED Talks have been viewed millions of times. His TED Course is entitled How to slow down.

Going Beyond the Hype - Perspectives on Advanced AI and Education - Part 2
Following on from Part One, this episode brings together many different voices on generative artificial intelligence (AI), from students reflecting on the fragility and uncertainty of their future lives and careers through to system leaders responding to the hyperbole around the advances in AI.
Going Beyond the Hype - Perspectives on Advanced AI and Education - Part 1
Generative advanced artificial intelligence (AI) has made significant developments in recent months, confounding all expectations of how quickly its capabilities and access will progress. In this episode Tim Logan speaks with people from across the education system to create spaces for conversations in which we can understand how people are responding and what the longer-term implications are for the way we teach and learn in schools, universities and beyond.
The Philosopher & the Neuroscientist - A Conversation with Zak Stein and Mary Helen Immordino-Yang
Dr. Mary Helen Immordino-Yang studies the psychological and neurobiological bases of social emotion, self-awareness and culture and their implications for learning, development and schools. She is a Professor of Education at the USC Rossier School of Education, a Professor of Psychology at the Brain and Creativity Institute, a member of the Neuroscience Graduate Program Faculty at the University of Southern California, and Director of the USC Center for Affective Neuroscience, Development, Learning and Education (CANDLE).
On Being Human: Reconsidering an African Philosophy of Education - A Conversation with Prof. Yusuf Waghid
Prof. Yusef Waghid, a leading African philosopher of education, holds three doctorates in the fields of education, policy, and philosophy from the University of the Western Cape and Stellenbosch University in South Africa, respectively. As a tenured professor since 2002 he was honoured with the title of distinguished professor (2014-2023) on the grounds of his research excellence at Stellenbosch University. He has been a prolific author with 419 publications to date of which 54 are academic books and edited collections and, 89 invited contributions to books. He received the Association for the Development of Education in Africa's prestigious Education Research in Africa Award: Outstanding Mentor of Education Researchers (2015). Throughout his tenure, he occupied leading management positions at Stellenbosch University, such as having been appointed Chair of the Department of Education Policy Studies (2003-2007, 2022); and Dean of the Faculty of Education (2007-2012; 2017-2018). In the main, his long-standing relationship with education began as a high school science teacher (1979-1996) before he joined higher education as a senior teaching advisor to advance his professional career in higher education (1996-).

Pedagogies of Collapse - A Conversation with Ginie Servant-Miklos
Dr. Ginie Servant-Miklos is Assistant Professor at Erasmus School of Social and Behavioural Sciences in Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
Previously she was a Senior Lecturer in the Humanities Department of Erasmus University College and held a visiting professorship in experimental pedagogics at Tyumen University, Russia.
Strategy in Education - A Conversation with Roger L. Martin
In 2017, Roger L. Martin was named the world’s #1 management thinker by Thinkers50, a biannual ranking of the most influential global business thinkers.
Roger is a trusted strategy advisor to the CEOs of companies worldwide including Procter & Gamble, Lego and Ford.
Global Bildung - A Conversation with Lene Rachel Andersen
The Global Bildung Network is a network run by volunteers and convened by Lene Rachel Andersen. It is a project under Nordic Bildung. Nordic Bildung is an association based in Copenhagen, Denmark and can be found at www.nordicbildung.org. If you would like to know more, you can contact them at info@nordicbildung.org
Culturally-Responsive Teaching - A Conversation with Zaretta Hammond
Zaretta Hammond is an international education consultant and the author of the best-selling book Culturally Responsive Teaching and the Brain: Promoting Authentic Engagement and Rigor for Culturally and Linguistically Diverse Students. She holds a Master’s in Education in English Education, with a concentration in Writing from the University of Colorado, Boulder.
Preventing Polarisation - A Conversation with Michelle Blanchet and Brian Deters
Michelle Blanchet is co-author of The Startup Teacher (Times 10, 2020), co-author of Preventing Polarization (Times 10, 2023), and an educator and social entrepreneur striving to improve how we treat, train, and value our teachers. After ten years of experience working with young people, she founded the Educators’ Lab, which supports teacher-driven solutions to educational challenges. Michelle earned a master’s in international relations from Instituto de Empresa in Madrid. She has taught social studies in Switzerland and the U.S. and has presented at numerous events, including SXSWedu and TEDxLausanne. Michelle is a part of the Global Shaper Community of the World Economic Forum. She has worked with organizations like PBS Education, the Center for Transformative Teaching and Learning, Ashoka, and the Center for Curriculum Redesign.
Limitless Learning - A Conversation with Professor Jo Boaler
Dr Jo Boaler is the Nomellini & Olivier Professor of Education at Stanford University. Former roles have included being the Marie Curie Professor of Mathematics Education in England, and a maths teacher in London comprehensive schools. Her PhD won the national award for educational research in the UK. She is an elected fellow of the Royal Society of Arts (Great Britain), and a former president of the International Organization for Women and Mathematics Education (IOWME). She is the recipient of a National Science Foundation ‘Early Career Award’, the NCSM Kay Gilliland Equity Award (2014) and the CMC Walter Denham Mathematics Leadership award (2015). She is the author of eighteen books and numerous research articles. She is a White House presenter on women and girls.